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Storm Front Discussion
« on: August 23, 2011, 06:25:01 PM »
A place to discuss 2011's Walker Christmas special, due to premiere in late December.

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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2011, 06:32:45 PM »
I need to get up to date on this show...

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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2011, 06:33:34 PM »
Good man Kyle! This one should be a lot of fun, and very different from last year's Christmas special.
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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2011, 06:38:30 PM »
Will be much easier to read all these f'n MZP shows if the wife gets me a Kindle for Xmas. I'm barely ever at home to do any reading, but have plenty of opportunities on the train, etc, to read.

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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2011, 07:51:21 PM »
Really glad to see this updated now - needless to say, you guys are in for a treat... :D

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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2011, 07:58:27 PM »
Very kind of you to say, Chris. It's going to be a very different kind of Walker, and I can't see what people make of this.
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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2011, 08:14:39 PM »
If it doesn't have Boone and Santa kicking Vampire Reindeer ass, I ain't interested.

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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 08:15:13 PM »
G'bye.
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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2011, 11:04:57 PM »
If it doesn't have Boone and Santa kicking Vampire Reindeer ass, I ain't interested.

What about genetically-altered elves turning on Santa, killing him and spreading across the world, forcing our guys to tackle them? The original title was "Silent Night, F**king Bloody Night" but it gave the game away a little.

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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2011, 04:55:34 PM »
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming...
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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2011, 10:06:32 PM »
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming...

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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 08:31:31 AM »
If there is any kissing under the mistletoe I am printing it out and burning it.

Other than that, I can't wait for this
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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 08:21:13 PM »
Three weeks to go until launch date!
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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2011, 08:56:57 AM »
And there we have it - Storm Front is online!

Merry Christmas to fans of Walker everywhere.
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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 05:07:07 PM »
Rolls with an easy confidence right from the start – distinct characters, quickly established as they hunt the ghouls in the shopping centre, before scenes at MI-16, Atlantis and Downing Street re-establish the status quo in rapid order. Corinne’s path from the Cornerstone oil rig back to Dr. Blake unfolds at a logical speed – it’s all too easy to have people jump conveniently from place to place, but Corinne’s journey feels honest – and the dramatic opening scenes of her escape set up the first act nicely.

Corinne fits the classic template of ‘person with powers abused in the name of science taking revenge’ (yes, it’s a template) that is the root of so many good SF stories (or even X-Men plots), and Raina’s awakening gives Alec some very meaty drama to work with too, the paternal side of him not something we’ve had chance to see before. It’s a good role reversal of the bits we’ve seen of his own early days with Baines, although with some neat gender reversal thrown in.

The old screenwriting adage of arrive in a scene late and leave it early really works well here – pauses for character beats aside, there’s not a wasted moment throughout this. Halfway in and things are still building, but there’s been progress on all threads throughout. Makes a good contrast to the often ponderousKings Cross, which sorely lacked this kind of pace. Alec and Dragan’s rainswept rooftop clash is great stuff, Dragan like one of those monstrous, indestructible goons so beloved of 80s action movies.

When Raina’s side of the plot kicks in things get moving again, but with the shift in focus I started to notice that this has felt more like a Season Four premiere than a between-seasons movie – Corinne’s story has had several good beats but it’s fighting for screen time with Raina’s arc. Her mind-controlled sinking of Atlantis would have made for a cracking S4 opener, but as Corinne’s story isn’t integrated with it in any way, we’ve got the unfortunate effect of two regular episodes smushed together into a movie. Cornerstone’s plot has to wait until eighty pages in to fully get going beyond Corinne’s escape and the team’s fight with Dragan, which doesn’t work as well as if this had been focused purely on them.

However, once Dragan sets up his attack on MI-16 then we’re back into the meat of things, with the destruction of the Core another pre-season game changer (and the comparisons to Torchwood continue with this move!). The oil rig raid is the kind of slick, extended action sequence that Adam is proving to be a real expert at, the titanic Alec/Dragan fight a definite highlight.

What saves this is the same thing that kept saving DSR, or Parcel View against any plot or style wobbles – the characters. The Core Four of Alec, Jackson, Boone and Chloe are the rock of this show, and they’re such a well-oiled machine by now that they stride through the scenes with consummate authority. Relegating Wexler and Neriah to supporting cast doesn’t hurt (Neriah struggled to make much of an impression outside a handful of episodes in S3 anyway), and the Alec/Raina relationship, while nothing new in many ways, still resonates. Even the more political diversions Rufus goes on work – they hold together well on their own and form a good change of pace from the MI-16 action.

Nitpicks? Well, the shoehorned, clichéd Britishisms (‘Sonny Jim’, ‘who’s he when he’s at home,’ ‘stick this in your pipe…’ ‘more than one way to skin a cat’) still make me cringe, and as I’ve just said this is less a standalone movie (as ‘Absolution’ did so well), more an extended opener for the upcoming fourth season. It’s all good, well written stuff, but a bit of a cheat when it could have built a single, focused story around Corinne and Cornerstone. That said, it does serve as an induction for Raina into the group, upgrades Jackson (at last!), gets rid of Atlantis (making the hoo-hah at the end of S3 about it rather redundant, though) and sets the board ready for 4x01 later this year. And even with a gooey festive final scene. Awww.

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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2012, 12:40:42 PM »
Seeing the review of WOF has prompted me to get back on with this, so first off thanks for reading Lee. To address a couple of points:

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Raina’s awakening gives Alec some very meaty drama to work with too, the paternal side of him not something we’ve had chance to see before. It’s a good role reversal of the bits we’ve seen of his own early days with Baines, although with some neat gender reversal thrown in.

This was always the point with Raina - Alec suddenly being forced to be a parent figure to a stroppy teenage girl, with everything that goes along with it, but he's taking his responsibilities deadly serious here.

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When Raina’s side of the plot kicks in things get moving again, but with the shift in focus I started to notice that this has felt more like a Season Four premiere than a between-seasons movie – Corinne’s story has had several good beats but it’s fighting for screen time with Raina’s arc. Her mind-controlled sinking of Atlantis would have made for a cracking S4 opener, but as Corinne’s story isn’t integrated with it in any way, we’ve got the unfortunate effect of two regular episodes smushed together into a movie. Cornerstone’s plot has to wait until eighty pages in to fully get going beyond Corinne’s escape and the team’s fight with Dragan, which doesn’t work as well as if this had been focused purely on them.


I can see where you're coming from but this was always one script, not two smushed together. What I was trying to go for was Raina and Corrine's arcs complimenting each other -- Corrine is someone who's come from a very similar place to Raina, lost everythign and being given powers and abilities she doesn't want, and showing how the two of them differ, hence the reason it's Raina that brings Corrine back and gets her to help them.

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The oil rig raid is the kind of slick, extended action sequence that Adam is proving to be a real expert at, the titanic Alec/Dragan fight a definite highlight.


Really? Thanks, though that does surprise me considering I still don't feel I'm that great at writing action beats.

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That said, it does serve as an induction for Raina into the group, upgrades Jackson (at last!), gets rid of Atlantis (making the hoo-hah at the end of S3 about it rather redundant, though) and sets the board ready for 4x01 later this year.


Atlantis was never going to be a permenent fixture, it was there as a way of introducing Raina, nothing more. And yeah, Jackson's promotion gives us some interesting ways to go with this going forward.

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And even with a gooey festive final scene. Awww.

Could resist that. Especially given how dark some of this stuff got.


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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2012, 09:46:51 PM »
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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2012, 09:56:47 PM »
Blimey Kyle, you've had your weetabix! (Bonus points if you can tell me which Walker episode that comes from).

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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2012, 10:10:25 PM »
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That is a paraphrase of one of my favourite lines in Walker history...

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Re: Storm Front Discussion
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2012, 10:26:35 PM »
I can't remember the episode, but it was either Jackson or Owen that said it and it was late S3 it was said.

Not a problem Adam.  Bring on WOF!
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