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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #325 on: November 05, 2011, 11:36:59 AM »
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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #326 on: November 06, 2011, 06:07:05 AM »
Pressure

With the framing of one slayer to be made out to be a rogue slayer can only be a PR nightmare for Academy. But one that they know they have to weather. It's good to see that Sofia has some sense to get to the bottom of the truth and she does so in style. Buffy would be proud.

Kira's rag-tag coven and her attempts to get one Ana Marquez ends in disaster, but can you expect when Jilhandra pops on the scene? The two Wiccans have less love for one another and with the Coven di Fuoco in question, it's a wonder that any of the witches involved didn't just flat out kill one another. Still, there is a bigger fish to fry and Jilly has some plans of her own. I did like the last scene though. She makes it clear that she wants to head the Cabal and finish where Alaric failed to do, but what will Hamish do considering he has similar designs of his own?

The only thing that wasn't resolved was the issue with Skye and Danny. If this arc had have been left out, I wouldn't have been the wiser. So I can tell that this is going to be set-up for something bigger.

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #327 on: November 06, 2011, 10:54:27 AM »
I'm glad you liked it, Dino, I had a lot of fun writing that episode! The episode sets up some big plots for the rest of the season and I think I'm not wrong when I say the Skye/Danny plot was actually added after the first draft so that might be why it didn't quite seem as prominent as the other two plots in the episode. Anyway, thank you for reading! Any review is appreciated! :D

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #328 on: November 08, 2011, 03:44:33 AM »
Survivalism

You know it's a Lee Chrimes written script when it's about Mallory and there's that indirect nod to his show Nine Lives. :D

But seriously... having a group of rogue (and you can call them that, just because of what they do) slayers that go around robbing banks is something that hasn't really been touched on in this universe just yet. If it has, I can't seem to recall it!

Did I suspect that Mallory would turn on the others and join the group? Given her history it seems like a good excuse, but... when you look back at it; it does seem like a good idea for her to do a double agent kind of thing.

But the real question does someone like Alana already suspect Mallory of foul play? Is she going to set her up as the sole instigator of the terrorist attack on the cinema?

On the other side, the relationship between Skye and Tori is getting really heated isn't it? Is it because Skye can see former qualities of herself in Tori and she just doesn't want to admit it?

Damn it Lee! Me no like cliffhangers! But at least in this respect, I won't have long to read the next installment.  :ninja:

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #329 on: November 08, 2011, 09:20:56 AM »
Li was originally down to write this as it used characters from his abandoned spin-off Into Our Generation, but when he had to drop out I did my best to keep it honest to his characterisation - I'd like to think I did a good job as it got his seal of approval, but Li also deserves a shout out for creating such fun characters in the first place :)
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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #330 on: November 08, 2011, 11:44:47 PM »
Story Of My Life

The whole cinematic experience for the Slayers, particularly Sofia is an amusing one. Her "realness" of being shocked by her adoring fans could have easily gone the other way and to her head. Good thing Huang had instilled some calming thoughts into her head.

I was however expecting the movie to be a complete travesty and the girls looking at each other saying: WTF?

But the movie was only a mere plot device to what really happened behind the scenes with the rogues setting up their bombs all over the place.

I had a feeling that Alana was going to have backup plans in place, a B and C Plan? Hmmm... that's an interesting way of putting it. The scene in the projection room was a good one. To see Mela and Fran (in a clinch, of course) phase into the room would have been a shock for  Miya and Luyu. I liked the nod to Inglourious Basterds. I did suspect the laptop to be booby trapped myself, but that didn't take in the end.

Jem's final gambit and the death of Alana and Eva in a car bomb was an interesting twist. Jem turned out to be one with the least amount of emotion involved. She could have easily allowed Alana to be captured and she could have given everyone the slip.

However she'd be looking over her shoulder all the time for that one to happen! Not that that isn't going to be the case since Mallory let her go. Though it really wasn't her fault, even if she did take the blame.

So the question is how much can a Slayer drink before she is really intoxicated? :D

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #331 on: November 11, 2011, 07:56:19 AM »
The Ties That Bind

A wiccan convention cannot be complete without the wiccan who started this series off in some sense: Willow Rosenberg. Well it's been a gajillion years since we've heard from the redheaded witch, but she seems to have lost none of her charm. Though the episode did feel bit like: "What's Xander and his family up to? And what have you been up to Willow?" The answers were given in short form and that didn't detract from the main plot.

Hope... I kind of forgot about her. Waaaaaaaaay back in Buffy S8 or 9? See that's how long it's been for me. I saw this young girl and at first I was like: "Who is she and why is she so important?" Then I remember the Oracle and how the baby of Xander and Anya was going to be the next Oracle.

Hope is a lovely little girl. She had all the precociousness of a child, but the terrible wisdom of someone who knows far too much than she should. Still, she's kept her wits about her and I see that has more to do with Xander and Willow's influence than anything else. Her little pieces of advice to the Slayers and such is one that has to be remembered in order to follow up. But damn, if there was a little too many hints to upcoming arcs that you'll forget before they actually happen!

As for Jilhandra storming the party and killing just about everyone... that had some intense action scenes. Perhaps my favourite was the scene with Tori and Skye in the elevator. Despite Skye being more than a bitch to Tori, you can tell Skye cares for her in her own way and just wants Tori to see that she's not isolated and she's been there and done that.

Still don't care for the Fran and Mela relationship. So to channel Waylon, I imagine something terrible is going to happen to both or either of them very, very soon. ;)

It's good getting back into the series and reading again in general. I look forward to the rest of the season - just to see how this ends up. :)

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #332 on: November 11, 2011, 08:40:42 AM »
Season 5 was one of my favourite seasons of SA. When that was finally released and I got a few episodes in I really got into the storyline and just couldn't wait to read the next episode.

Goodbye to one of the most amazing shows ever created.

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #333 on: November 11, 2011, 09:23:26 AM »
Make sure you pay attention to what Hope says throughout that episode, that's all we're going to say...
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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #334 on: November 13, 2011, 08:03:51 AM »
Laneshead

The episode I was looking forward to for quite a while. Though for a short time, I did know about who was locked up in Laneshead well before I read the episode, it didn't detract from the reading at all.

The idea of the panopticon prison system worked well for the inmates of Laneshead. That is until Hamish showed up on the scene. I never guessed that he was actually Wylde all along, but the fact you never showed who Wylde was as a guest star, should have hinted at that.

With Celeste, it was interesting how she played along with the ruse enough to know that she was going to be sprung. This should have raised the alarm bells for both Kira and Huang. It's amazing how a sweet looking middle aged woman can show she can be quite brutal. That to me is what is really scary about all of this.

Delaney's attempt to deal with Celeste meant she had her own intentions at heart. But should she have expected Celeste to have even helped her?

Perhaps the real clanger was who the PA was revealed to be at the end.

Hmmm... It's been awhile but I am quite sure that Rachel died a while back? *narrows eyes* Or that's how you lead us to believe... (Once again if I missed something, it's only because it's been so long since I've read this series!)  :ninja:

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #335 on: November 13, 2011, 08:21:45 AM »
Rachel was definitely killed in the season finale last year. :)


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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #336 on: November 13, 2011, 11:26:23 AM »
Yep, Victory broke her neck. She's dead.

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #337 on: November 13, 2011, 02:13:13 PM »
DUN DUN DUN :D

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #338 on: November 13, 2011, 09:58:10 PM »
AHAAAAAA!!!! The thot plickens. :D

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #339 on: January 09, 2012, 02:55:04 AM »
Twelve episodes reviewed all at once!

I must admit, I didn’t write the reviews as I went along, so my memories of the first one (Kaleidoscope) are very hazy. So, Rachel is back and although Hamish’s love for her was enough to bring her back from the dead, it took a lot of energy and sacrifices to do so. Nevertheless, I do like Rachel in this broken manner, as it indicates the closeness to link with Dana.

As for Celeste quickly taking control of the Coven, it’s no wonder she doesn’t have much love for the others and that Jilhandra would do almost anything to get rid of her. But even someone as crafty as Celeste would have had plenty of time to have made plans and waited for the right opportunity to set them in motion.

With Higher Ground (and all throughout the episode I had the Chili Peppers cover in my head), Delaney only wanted to do the right thing and help her mother. What she should have realised that Kira didn’t need her daughter’s help, and you could tell that Kira was secretly relieved that Delaney lost her power. So for Delaney to travel to the higher dimensions and ask for her powers back… well there is always a price - especially since Hope already foresaw this and even tried to tell Delaney so.

As for Tori doing a runner in the hope that she would not put the others in danger; that seemed like a good plan in theory. I totally called the trucker being Hamish, but I don’t think you needed to be a genius on that one.

Magnum Cum Laude was one of my favourite episodes to read. It was also interesting to note that I read this before I read the previous two episodes - that was why this episode didn’t make a hell of a lot sense in the beginning.

I did like the demons teleporting to Academy and the full-scale attack certainly put the girls through their paces but something they’d rather not have. The welcome return of Alita made good use of closure, particularly for Sofia. It wasn’t a surprise that Delaney would say yes, but even then… her irresponsiblity of wanting her powers may have upset the balance of power, it still meant she got her powers back and that will come in handy for sure.

Will and Testament is a great way of seeing how human Frankie is, and to see how she reacts to the death of someone close to her. Although the episode did drag on in bits, Cassandra was getting as annoying as Hamish in how close she came to dying and then slipping through the cracks. You can bet that Frankie will be at the front of the line to kill her for what she did to her father.

With Humanitarian, having Erika continue her assault on the Cabal can either been seen as a good thing or a bad thing. Erika had a plan all along and that was to bring back Maria from the dead. Seeing as how wonderful that’s going for Rachel at the moment, Erika isn’t thinking to clearly on that scale. I do like Skye and Erika still play off each other well, but you can tell that Skye won’t for a second kill her former friend if push came to shove.

A Mother Knows, had Lady Huang have one of her visions that is supposedly never wrong. It’s tragic she took the path she did, and it was all for the love of her son. However, I could never remember if Dade immunity to magic was revealed earlier or not.
Darkest Days, was interestingly put. Seeing as it dealt directly with Sofia and Delaney. It was quant to have Faith back in the mix, but she seemed prefunctory in this episode. It was only then we realise it was an exercise in letting go of their darkest desires that it made sense in the end. At the girls are at peace, or are they?

New Order… well that’s a bit graphic. Sure Cassandra among many women (both young and old) are a little peeved at being a Slayer and how incompetant the Watcher’s Council can be, but to have gone down the path she was heading? Okay, I had to say I called it that Fitzgerald was dead all along, but it was blatantly clear that she wasn’t going to make it, and based on that assumption… it was clear that the culling of the main characters and supports is now in full effect.

Finger in the Dam had a bit of a shock. To be fair, I never once cared about Mela and Fran as characters, and that’s probably why the twist with Mela being Celeste’s granddaughter hit me a little harder than most. But… even after the reveal, I still don’t care about Mela. All I seemed to care about was how and when she was going to die. It seems that being under the care and tutelage of Hamish, meant that she was going to pull some slippery escapes of her own.

Pull the Trigger really set the bar in killing off a main character, but of all the main characters it had to be Skye? Erika’s vendetta against the Cabal reach full effect with the planned destruction of all their bases, but that would mean killing thousands of innocents, just so the Cabal are no more? You can tell that Maria will be a thorn in Erika’s side, and Skye along with Tori weren’t helping either.

I did like that Tori accepted responsibilty for Erika’s evilness, but Erika herself admitted she would have gone to another vampire to be sired… it seems once she lost Maria way back when, she lost her will to live. It’s good to see that Maria and Skye both had the balls to stand up to her like that. But while those girls were away, the Academy get’s completely wrecked by the Coven and oh, oh… Tori feels a little different which means Hamish…

(A side note: Debbie featured in one of the episodes and buggered if I remember which one. Despite her ability to absorb pain and injuries, it was a nice way of “KILLING HER OFF” that did it. If and when Mike comes back to reading this again, he still won’t be pleased.)

A trip down memory lane and a visit to Glastonbury Tor in As One Chapter Ends… Did the Academy and the Slayers have any idea that the Coven would go there as well? This is not going to end well and I was right. Seems a bit one-sided at the moment; hope the girls pull through on this one.

Sacrifice can only mean one thing: another character will die - and in spectacular fashion. With icon pointing the bloody obvious, Kira certainly knows the meaning of sacrifice, yet I get the feeling it was more to do with not allowing Delaney to have the Tor’s power consume and not letting it fall into the hands of Celeste, which can only count as a big “fuck you” to Celeste on Kira’s part. Still the light-show must have been awesome to watch, particularly if you were stoned. (Oh boy do I know how to digress…)

Into Each Generation: I had this picture in my mind in how this will end, and that picture wasn’t met. The huge surprise of the GIGANTIC Hellmouth that Celeste helped create and open is and always will be a terrible idea despite how evil and awesome she seems to think she is. Because the last time a Hellmouth was opened, it wasn’t a walk in the park for no-one.

It however didn’t take a genius to realise that Celeste was the lynch-pin to the Hellmouth staying opening permanently, so they needed to get close enough to her. Easy said than done, right?

Here, we see the Leverage style flashbacks referring to clues in previous episodes - such as the extremely pointless (well I thought so, and I’m pretty certain other did as well) exercises that Lady Huang made Sofia do. In this case they weren’t so pointless after all!

We get another character sacrificing herself for well, it had to be for glory right? It rhymes with Tori. (Crickets).

When it came to Mela taking on all the Slayer power, and she was (nor any girl for that matter) built to take on that kind of power, I was kind of hoping she’d die, but it was clear that the power would have to return back where it came.

Now this is where I thought what happened next was a bit off for me. You basically rehashed what happened in Chosen in Buffy S7. What should have happened was that Sofia should have made sure the Slayer power went back to just one single girl. It gives a whole new meaning to the words: “Into Every Generation).

So the series was left opened ended. Okay, I can see that this will lead up to Ragnarok, but I felt a little cheated with that ending. I can’t complain though, it did finish on a high.

I did like that little scene where Sofia was chatting with the dead Slayers that gave up their lives over the course of the series. Of course, Sofia might be a little mad (and by this stage who wouldn’t be?) but I wouldn’t say it to her face though. ;)

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #340 on: January 09, 2012, 11:18:09 AM »
So much to get through... awesome! Thanks for reading Dino, glad you enjoyed things :) I'll post some more detailed feedback in a bit!
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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #342 on: January 10, 2012, 04:34:18 PM »
Fantastic read there, Lee. And thanks for the kudos on Darkest Days! :D That pleased me greatly, that you liked what I did with that one.

Thanks for reading the whole season, Dino! Thick or thin, you were one of our regular readers, and I'm really glad you got to finish the journey we set you on. I hope it was as fun to read as it was to plot and write.


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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #343 on: January 10, 2012, 09:56:08 PM »
Slayer Academy was one of the first proper series I read when I started on the site. So to have missed the final season as it aired due to real life and the writing of my own mini-series taking precedence over my reading... That was a bit of a letdown on my part. It's good to get back to reading and enjoying the series I love to read.

At least on a side note: I get to read the final season SiB as it airs, but that is a long time coming!  :laugh:

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #344 on: January 11, 2012, 12:28:47 AM »
I concur with Alden - thanks, Dino, for being awesome and reading the episodes. Even just someone reading one means a lot to us, so you having been with us all the way... :D

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« Reply #345 on: January 12, 2012, 11:48:37 AM »
I'd like to add my thanks! Good job on finishing!

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Re: Season Five Discussion
« Reply #346 on: February 13, 2012, 06:15:00 AM »
Anyone who's finished season five might be interested in this...

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