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I guess they can play on non-literal interpretations of those characters and their abilities, too. Maybe 'gorgon' and 'vampire' are codenames or linked to talents/weapons they use in the field? Arrow prefers to embrace a more grounded take on things, but given the fact The Flash exists in this same universe we do have a little wiggle room for metahumans.
I'm guessing Arrow will have a very different version of that group. Doesn't seem to fit the tone of the show. They'd be better suited to Flash.
Marc Singer has joined the cast of Arrow.
Interesting one this, as fan of Marc from his time in Beastmaster and the wonderful original V series. Great to see him join the cast - this show just keeps getting better and better.
Who are the Creature Commando's? Find out under the spoiler:
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The Creature Commandos are a special military unit under Project M composed of supernatural monsters. Their original membership during World War II included the Frankenstein-esque Elliot Taylor, human leader Matthew Shrieve, gorgon Myrra Rhodes, vampire Vincent Velcro, and werewolf Warren Griffith. In the New 52 reboot they operate as agents of S.H.A.D.E. with Frankenstein as their leader. The Creature Commandos were created by J.M. DeMatteis and Pat Broderick, first appearing in Weird War Tales #93. (1980)
So since I'm back home from Russia for an extended holiday break (a whopping total of four weeks!) I have some free time to enjoy the fine pleasures of reading MZP scripts.
And here I am before my (sadly metaphorical) fireplace, wondering about what should put me in a Christmas mood. And the answer is: Batman, of course! What's more jolly and full of hope than a man who dresses up as a bat and beats up criminals to avenge the tragic death of his parents?
Eh...many things, actually. Well, I don't care. THIS IS BATMAN!
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We start with a cheerful mob coke party.
No, no, you haven't been invited to anything, it's the script which starts with a coke party! Jeez.
Anyway, the ol'Batsy literally crashes the party in a badass scene reminiscent of Batman: Year One. No more cocaine snorting from now on, folks! Being a criminal isn't fun at all when there's a superhero around.
(In a side note, more teasing bits about the Master and his new Oblivion drug. A very ghoulish business, isn't it? But I digress).
Then there's some Batwoman foreshadowing and a police ball. You see? Everyone is in a festive mood. I told you that this is appropriate reading to boost your Christmas spirit!
And the MCU is introduced to best and brightest of Gotham. Good luck with the job, Ji-oh, wait. It's Flass. The corrupt police officer from the teaser. Never mind. He can't help it if both the crooks and the cop love him. He's just too fun to be around, that fiendish party animal!
Very much unlike everyone's favorite Gordon, who sticks out like a sore thumb. He's not one for social events, that Jimmy guy. Too in love with his job, if you catch my drift.
And while all the other guests entertain themselves in the favorite way (taking pictures and spying on the mob, interviewing their date and laughing at the dirty cop's jokes) Gordon meets our woman of mystery.
[Nitpick: she's called Essen in a line from scene directions, but we shouldn't know her name for now]
At least Jim is a good daddy. He's not even too overprotective considering that he lives in Gotham.
Case in point: a rude musclebound thug is clubbed almost to death by a vigilante mob and another vigilante kidnaps a police officer. What happened to the nice safe haven for the poor criminals that was this town? Did it get honest all of a sudden?
Seriously though, it's obvious that Batman has inspired the honest citizens to come forward and fight, but how do they keep themselves on the morally right side? It's easy to slip into evil when you appoint yourself as judge, jury and executioner. There's a reason why Batman never kills anyone. If you allow yourself to cross a line once, it becomes harder and harder to come back.
Anyway. Batman roughs up the corrupt cop but not fast enough to get any answers. Psychological torture takes time, Bruce. Try to bug his car next time.
Sanchez has been suspended to wire by the Faceless, and Gordon s not amused. Neither is Sarah Essen, our mysterious lady from the party. Who's his new partner. Not exactly what the doctor ordered. Flass did, though.
Time to meet the Faceless, who are a bunch of random schmucks who are itching for some fame. They're vigilante of the Internet age, who know how important it is to get some good exposure.
And our introduction to the main players in this episode is complete with a visit to the Brotherhood Temple. Where we discover that almost all the people at the police party are also members of this secret society. This is Gotham after all. Only Gordon is the troublemaker who doesn't get it.
He just has to insist with his honesty obsession, and screen out any partner for potential ties to organized crime. Definitely not a team player.
Bruce is a busy little millionaire: a speech conference, the supervision of the maintenance of a library named after his mother, a fundraiser party. It's amazing that he gets time to ask out Vicki for a date. And be Batman, of course.
Meanwhile, at the hospital, Sanchez lets out know that he deserved a beating, Essen and Gordon play "good cop-bad cop" and Gordon begins to appreciate his new partner a little bit more.
To be honest, after the "Don't leave town" quip, I'm starting to like her, too.
And while Gordon Sr. contemplates the grim possibility of more criminals being beaten up, Gordon Jr. witness Bruce's secret side as
Back at the Batcave, Bruce puts together the pieces of a nasty puzzle which seems to reveal an ugly truth about his company and the Brotherhood. A bit of exposition for exposition's sake here, since Alfred already knows, and even us readers are able to figure it out.
The scene gets bonus points for hinting at a possible stint as Batman for Alfred, which is actually a pretty neat idea in this series.
The Faceless carry on their fight to clean up Gotham from the dregs of society and ambush another creep. Gordon and Vale are on the case, on two different sides of society. And the Faceless know how to use the press.
Meanwhile Batman and Gordon discuss the case, Batman pulls off his ninja trick and isn't exactly happy about having inspired more violence. Alfred points out that their team isn't all about justice for everyone, either, with a good speech that I only wish was really acted out by Mark Strong.
Alfred could very well be the Strongest character in this series (painful pun intended).
Time to focus on what really matters. Which means scaring the living daylights out of the dirty cop. Since Batman is not interrupted by other policemen this time Tanner spills the beans.
And Vicki gets the Faceless manifesto on air. Looks like both Sanchez and Steele deserved some punishment, but I'm not sure that what the Faceless did is going to improve the city that much. At best both Sanchez and Steele leave to be rapist and murderous assholes somewhere else. At worst one or both of them will be back on the streets of Gotham with an ax to grind.
(This is probably why even Batman is worried about them. Vigilantism doesn't work as a punishment.)
Meanwhile Flass is being an authoritarian idiot. Dude, you're dirty, not Dirty Harry. The last thing you need is a scandal. Maybe he's overcompensating, though. Playing the tough as nails no nonsense cop to hide his ties to the mob.
Major kickass points for Vicki, though. Not she shames a policeman who plays fast and loose with the First Amendment and makes him look like a fool in the process, she taunts him to his face. This is what a journalist should be.
Batman gets a better costume and calls Vicki. And here we have the funniest exchange of the script:
ALFRED "Wasn't exactly what I had in mind."
LUCIUS "What, you thought he'd put the suit on and dangle her off a bridge until she gave it all up?"
ALFRED "Would have got results."
LUCIUS "You need help."
Ha. I love Alfred and Lucius.
Even Batman is put on hold from time to time!
And Jessica Carlisle is the next target. She has a family. A sick kid, actually. This points out another possible problem with violent vigilantism: innocent collateral damage. This time though both Batman and the police are on the case.
And here's another problem with unchecked vigilantism: escalation. If you think you're in the right those pesky things like humanity and decency go out of the window. Now they're ready to kill a woman before her son. They're quickly becoming as bad as the criminals they fight.
Of course Batman stops them in time, and it looks like it's mostly Hemming who has a taste for blood while Angie (and maybe others) aren't so much into it. Their story serves as a well thought cautionary tale for Batman himself.
And indeed Angie is very conflicted about what to do. This is a great plot point and a very realistic reaction. Many time we don't know
As it is Bruce being drawn to Batman. Alfred gets more great character development in his scene where he lectures Bruce about the costs of wearing masks and about his thirst for justice.
Barbara meets Alfred. More foreshadowing, I guess. Until she gets kidnapped by the Faceless (who have really gone down the deep end right now!) and Alfred gives chase. Batman isn't too far (does he always follow Alfred around?) but he ends up slamming into a street light. Ouch.This is why you should know when to let it go.
So Barbara has a guardian angel, Alfred has changed his mind about what really matters and Hemming has a helpful daughter. A final confrontation between Batman and the Faceless is forthcoming.
Time to some development for Harvey, Tanner's punishment and another party. Where Harvey is very protective of Vicki. There's some simmering tension in here, which is played out as a joke for now, but could lead to more interesting things in the future (although I really hope you handle your a love triangle better than Lost!)
And Hemming loads petrol and explosives in his van and shoots Angie. He's definitely lost it.
Did Gordon let his recently kidnapped daughter leave the house to meet a girl that showed up out of nowhere? While he was watching TV? What happened to the "police escort" thing? Bad form, Gordon!
Seriously though, that was very stupid of him.
George Hemming's plan is truly crazy. Doesn't he understand that he's turning into exactly the kind of man who killed his wife? I know that grief can do a lot to a person but how is Gordon's innocent daughter responsible for anything? Yep, he's the bad guy. He may have a sympathetic backstory but right now he's the villain of the episode.
And Megan's gone nutty, too. Does she seriously want to kill a friend because of her father's shoddy police work? Girl, you need a LOT of therapy.
Does Flass really care about Barbara or is he simply smart enough to know how to keep his second in command on his good side? Since he wasn't too smart when it came to dealing with Vicki, I think that he really cares, at least as a cop. Anyway it's an interesting reaction and a good way to avoid the dreaded "obstructive police chief" cliche.
Thanks to Angie most of the Faceless are caught but Hemming and his daughter (a deranged version of Barbara and her dad) are completing their plan somewhere else.
It's time for a fiery ending. Hemming meets his end, Gordon fails at stopping his daughter from running into a building on fire (strike two against Jim's parenting skills), Jim saves Megan and Batman saves Barbara. And Bruce is inspired to become "more than just a man". A happy ending, isn't?
Not exactly. Sadly Flass is smart enough to figure out that Jim is working with the Batman and Essen is a Brotherhood mole. Well of course.
Batman visits Vicki and the Brotherhood executes Tanner. We finally meet the Master and he's...
Black Mask? I didn't expected him at all! It seems like you're putting a new spin on the character, though, what with the faux Masonic trappings of the Brotherhood and his penchant for swords.
To sum it up: I liked this episode. It's not without flaws: It takes a while to get going, Gordon looks a bit like an idiot at times which I'm not sure was the intent and the Essen reveal was very telegraphed.
But, and it's a big but, when it works it really works. Batman's character arc develops in a natural, interesting fashion, Alfred is a walking concentrate of awesome, Barbara shows the beginning of her journey to become Batwoman, the villains are interesting and with shades of grey, and the fight scenes are written very well.
Keep up the good work!
« Last post by Stevie_G on Tue Dec 16 2014, 16:40 »
Some nice treats waiting under the tree this year I see. Looking forward to them, especially the Sherlock film. Need to catch up on the Runaways, Batman and the League ones over Christmas and New Year
And more to come still, Ambassador - you're spoiling us with those
Do love the Batman banner, nice design.
« Last post by Pete D. Gaskell on Tue Dec 16 2014, 16:09 »
Hello everyone! It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas (or insert alternative holiday of your choice here) - and we at MZPtv Towers are proud to say we have a feast of our own to present to you over the festive period!
Beginning on MONDAY, DECEMBER 22nd, Chris Haigh returns to the world of Runaways with a Christmas Special entitled Unusual Festivities - and that should be a lovely little palate-cleanser before Season 2 begins at the start of next year!
Following on from this, on WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 24th, Adam Scott whisks us off to Gotham City for a Nightmare Before Christmas with Batman! Expect a special episode far removed from your usual fuzzy fare - but no less satisfying, I'm sure...
After a little break to let you digest that, we'll be opening our doors for business again on THURSDAY, JANUARY 1st with a vengeance, and as a statement of intent, Adam is back at the writers' desk again, unleashing the next film in both the ever-expanding League universe and his own Sherlock Holmes saga with the aptly named The Return of Sherlock Holmes - an unmissable start to the New Year!
And that's just a taster of what's to come over the coming weeks - there's many more presents in store waiting to be unwrapped at the right time - but for now, I'll leave you with these...
I still wonder if:
No-can-dos-ville, baby doll.
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Unfortunately for those hoping to see the Dark Knight show up on the shows, Arrow and Flash executive producer Andrew Kreisberg stressed that anything you see referencing Batman on the show is “a tease.”
Explained Kreisberg, “Obviously, they have the Batman movies and there’s [the series] Gotham. DC are amazing partners and Geoff Johns, who’s the chief creative officer [of DC] and one of the developers of Flash and done episodes of Arrow, he’s been with us from the very beginning on both shows. There are things we can do and things we can’t.”
Kreisberg noted, “I’m a huge fan of Nightwing,” and how exciting it was for him on Arrow “Getting to name check Blüdhaven and go there.” However, he said there are still restrictions in place even when it came to mentioning locations, adding, “There’s the cities that we can use and then there’s everything else. I don’t think you’re going to be hearing ‘Gotham’ or ‘Metropolis’ [on Arrow or The Flash] anytime soon.” - IGN
« Last post by Lee A. Chrimes on Tue Dec 16 2014, 09:41 »
Vaughn was a few posts ahead of you with that one :P
Yep, the old 'Woman In The Refrigerator' problem.
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Yeah, from early on in the episode I started to think 'Okay, so this is Arrow's Empire Syrikes Back moment - Ollie faces Ra's and loses, 'dies' (Lazarus Pit a-go-go), while he's gone you have Starling City defenceless so Laurel steps up as Black Canary II (ably assisted by Diggle and Arsenal )and Ray Palmer gets his ATOM suit going, with Felicity defecting to work for Palmer. Ollie has his own moment, maybe even doing some League training off the books with his mate from Hong Kong, and hopefully struggling to not go bonkers after exposure to the Pit. Builds back towards an S3 finale where Ollie takes on Ra's and beats him (although he obviously won't stay dead).
Oh my gosh please let that be how it all works out!
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